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A couple years ago I was flipping through the 7″ bins at Amoeba on Haight st. and yanked out Ice 9’s 1979 KBD shocker, “Out Out Out” b/w “Revolting Mess” // “27.3″. Marked at $5 it was clear that someone had screwed up and thought they were pricing a record by the mid-90s Rorschach influenced band (of “split-with-Charles-Bronson” fame). Ice 9 were a pretty good rockin’ punk band imortalized (ha!) on one of the KBD comps (was it 9? 11?) from Portland OR. One of the members, Count Vertigo, also had a solo record I think. I’m not a huge KBD’r and so I fuck up on some info like this. Because there’s a number of variations of the record, I ended up emailing the people at Discourage records, Portland’s main squeeze for rare punk/HC/garage/rock and/or roll/etc. The following is excerpts from 3 emails that I got from Abe, one of the dudes who keeps Discourage running smooth.

Hey Chris,

There are 3-5 variations(depending on how you count them) of original circa 1979-80 band made picture sleeves that we know of.

1st edition were screen printed on white paper.  We’ve seen blue ink, green ink, and a blue-green ink.  When they either ran out of or got tired of screening these they had a print shop run more off (several hundred i’m sure).  These 2nd edition are litho printed, not silk screen, and are done with black print on green paper or yellow paper.  We’ve seen green more than yellow.  About ten years ago when we got in touch with the band we got i guess 25-45(?) 2nd ed. green picture sleeves and perhaps 5-10 yellow sleeves. 

We also got maybe 50(?) sleeveless copies for which we xeroxed new sleeves in the fashion of the 2nd edition (green, yellow, and also blue paper i think).  These are new xerox made copies and have always been sold as so (for about 1/3 the price of the sleeved copies).  You can tell the difference because xerox ink sits on the surface of the paper.  It makes a crack line when folded and the ink doesn’t bleed through the paper (isn’t really visible from the blank side).  If yours is a white paper screen printed copy you are a lucky guy.  If you think it is a 2nd edition and you don’t want to crease it to find out then you can try scratching a little of the black ink.  If any flakes off then it is one of our xerox made covers.  If not then lucky you again. Also look on the back and see if some of the printed ink has bleed through the paper.  Finally, most re-issue sleeve copies also either have our rubber-stamp or some hand writing stating that they are a xerox on the back.  Hope that helps.  Just out of curiosity please let me know what you found.  -Abe

After a little bit of clarifying we determined that I’d picked up one of the 2nd edition copies from the original batch circa 1980. This also seems to be what’s for sale here. Out Out Out is a great A-side cut, super nervy the way they all sing “Out Out Out” together. As if to prove my affinity for juvenile hardcore though, I ended up trading this record for a copy of the Together comp w/ all the inserts. I’m sure I’d get kicked right off the bus to the collector scum convention, but that’s just how I roll.